75. Women in Accounting with Heather Smith and Steph Hinds

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Is accounting a meritocracy? Are men and women progressing equally?

Probably not. The pay gap is real between men and women and some say the old boys club still exists.

We unpack what the old boys club is, discuss if a female only awards is good or bad, and get some tips

We hear that women should push for pay rises and there is room for more thought leadership to guide women on how to do so.

Heather Smith believes that the female accounting awards is a good thing because of the way it brings women into events and creates a network for women and men to build from but we are probably drowning in awards at the moment.

Steph Hinds will never enter a women's only award or join women's group in part because she has never experienced the glass ceiling and has never felt discrimination.

Small business has an ability to just role up the sleeves and just get things done without considering the sex of the person getting the job done.

We talk about the role of quotas of women on boards. But we have a responsibility to watch the way we talk to young people about their futures. If we let think think they are different, then they may act that way.

David observes that for the most part, Australian business doesn't care about your religion or nationality or sex, that's part of the Aussie culture but that it becomes easier as you become more established in your career.