After a long career as one of Australia's most respected demographers (indeed most didn't know what a demographer was before him) Bernard made international headlines when he suggested that expensive avo on toast brunch's won't help a millennial buy a house.

One group agreed with him, accountants!!

David sat down with Bernard at Xerocon for a witty and entertaining chat about

How Xero's Small Business Insights produces a creative and insightful database puts big data for use by small business owners
How big data still needs someone to explain what it means and what should be done but won't make everyone unemployable (good news accountants)
Why smashed avo should be the new national dish and what to do when satire doesn't work
Why passion drives his work
Why data is a conversation on art vs science
Why politicians with a an unfunded vision should still be rewarded
Why we can't build big infrastructure that lasts
Why envy of the entrepreneur is not good for society
Why Farmers are our best entrepreneurs

The interview is fun, witty and showcases the genuine passion of someone who is committed too story telling the real Australia.

Enjoy.